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CIF - SS 2025 - Corona

Hi everyone,

I wanted to bring up an incident yesterday involving Jimmy (Corona HS's Coach) at the CIF consolation rounds for the 135 lbs weight class between Corona and Tustin. During the match, the Tustin athlete suffered an injury. As the injury time was running out, she was getting up but the trainer wouldn't let her. Despite this, the Tustin athlete got up a second or two after the timer and was ready to continue wrestling. The referee, whistle in mouth with both girls at the center, was about to resume the match when Jimmy swooped in, arguing that the Tustin athlete had gotten up too late. The referee, easily influenced, sided with Jimmy and awarded the match to the Corona wrestler.

It's disheartening to see the Tustin athlete's hard work and determination dismissed because of Jimmy's interference. It seems clear that Jimmy recognized the Tustin athlete's superior skills and acted quickly to ensure she couldn't continue. This type of behavior is unacceptable and damages the integrity of the sport and trust in adults.

It's time for the wrestling authorities to step in and address individuals like Jimmy, who prioritize their own egos over the dreams and efforts of dedicated athletes.

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38 Comments

Monica Roldan

Thanks to you both for the support and standing up for Samantha with us. We truly hope the culture changes for the next group of girls. We aren't done. If they think because she's a senior they can sweep it under the rug again, they are greatly mistaken. It's not even about Sammy anymore, it's about the future and doing what's right. The need to do better!

David Falcon

Unfortunately you will find various contradictions with in CIF bylaws. I my self have seen several when reviewing for a few different concerns.

No I recently gave Rich kudos for his handling of coaches in the weigh in room for souther section CIF. After posting new information has been present leading to me seeking clarification from Rich. It’s been a few days and no reply. I hope to receive clarification by next week.

CIF is “funny” you have to approach them with questions and clarification. I know of a few parents that have had to lawyer up to get action from CIF. It’s said that there is word play won it comes to the bylaws

Ayyub Patel

It’s disappointing to report that, despite all the evidence, the CIF has chosen not to allow Samantha to wrestle at the Masters. She will most likely carry this with her forever, constantly wondering "what if?" while the adults involved move on without any sense of accountability.

When I initially emailed Tustin's AD about this situation, I Cc’d the CIF representative, who responded by citing CIF bylaws stating that decisions cannot be changed after the contest ends. While that may be true in some cases, I’ve seen CIF reverse decisions before, so that explanation doesn’t hold up here. It’s difficult to understand how this decision aligns with CIF’s commitment to fair play and the integrity of the sport. I commend the Tustin AD for her diligent efforts on behalf of Samantha.

This entire situation raises bigger questions about the way girls’ wrestling is treated. Maybe this will bring much-needed attention to some of the problems that plague girls’ wrestling. It’s hard to feel optimistic when those in positions of power refuse to step up to ensure fairness.

According to CIF’s Code of Ethics, its core mission is to promote fair competition, sportsmanship, and the development of student-athletes. Those same Ethics underlines the importance of honesty, integrity, and fairness in every aspect of the sport. Then why were Samantha’s rights overlooked in favor of a system that failed to uphold its own principles?

We owe it to our girls to ensure their voices are heard and their hard work is truly respected. I know the majority of coaches are dedicated to doing the right thing, working tirelessly to support and uplift these young girls. Don’t change; continue to prioritize fairness, transparency, and genuine sportsmanship in girls’ wrestling, ensuring every one of them has a level playing field and the opportunity to succeed.

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Monica Roldan

Wow, that is amazing, congratulations about your daughter!

Ayyub Patel

David Falcon - Amazing work on the breakdown and rules interpretation. Thank you!

David Falcon

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The problem is nothing is clearly stated if time is all used up? It only stated for 2nd and 3rd injury time.

Jimmy plays word games. Thats how he kicked everyone out back in 24.

Ayyub Patel

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I know you already know but I'll say it anyway....In the spirit of good competition, when time runs out, the refs will ask if the injured athlete can continue. That can take 10, 15, 30 secs, from when the ref asks to when the girls line back up. Then they wrestle...no issues, shouldn't be any.

(By the way my daughter just told me who you are. Congratulations on all of your daughter's success)

David Falcon

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Agreed

Unfortunately this is common curtacy for the most part. There is where the problem lies. It’s only common to your surrounding. Think of common sense.

This is where rules come in. And if rules are not clearly stated interpretation comes in. Unfortunately in this case there will be interpolation and it may not be in favor for this family. However this should force clearly rules on the matter.

Thank with regards to my daughter. We had our issues with calls during pre and post season matches. Some we won other we lost. I will say the experience has been great as well as educating.

She’s attempting to win a NAIA title and continue her high school undefeated record in to college.

David Falcon

So let’s go to video.

Ref indicates injury time at 2:25

Train assist girl up at 4:06

By my math this is 1 minute and 41 seconds. This leaves 9 seconds of injury time available. Let’s say I’m of and say there 5 seconds left. Still time remaining.

Once wrestling is up both wrestlers return to center and what seems to take place is Ref signals toe the line. Corona wrestler pulls band off as if match was called. Could this be due to her team stating match was over? Possible. I’m nice Jimmy realizes ref indicates match to continue he chimes in about injury time. Assuming it was used up.

Now I do not see 25 cif rule for injury. However COF does state they follow nfhs rules unless noted. Per nhfs a total time of 1.50 is giving. It state if a second injury time is taken opposing wrestler get to choose position. If a third is taken it’s dq.

Now where is it stated time runs out it’s dq. How ever it is stated if a wrestler cannot continue due to injury a dq is awarded.

so let’s say time ran out Tustin is getting up trainers have cleared her. I assume the ref confirms if wrestler is good to go or not and makes judgement from there. In this case wrestler showed signs she ready to continue. Where in the rules does it clearly state time runs out you are dq’d?

Let look at boxing guy get knock down there’s an 8 count followed by confirmation by the ref boxer can continue. This confirmation generally take about 2-4 second before match continues. Does the same concept apply in wrestling fir injury time?

Now as far as Jimmy stating he checked in he girl. In the video you see Jimmy about 3-5 feet away learn over and take a look. Is this out of concern for the wrestler or to see if she has a chance to continue?

My guess is the ladder as jimmys girl was a Lower seed.

Pics below

2:25 injury signal

4:06 girl gets up

4:15 ref signals toe the line

Next 2 injury rule nhsf rules

Video of Tustin girl getting up ready to wrestle

Full video need flo login

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/13727699-135-lbs-cons-round-4-samantha-roldan-tustin-vs-katelyn-lee-corona

Ayyub Patel

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I love this!! Thank you!

David Falcon

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I see I was incorrect in injury time. I thought I read some where it was a minute and 50 seconds. As I’ve looked further in to it a minute and 30 seconds is time allowed So in this case the wrestler went over by 11 seconds.

Now is that due to the trainers?

Clearly the ref is not doing his job as there seems no indication of warning wrestler and coach of time. Ref makes no communication with trainers to see if wrestler is good to go after the minute and a half.

Jimmy’s down fall is he makes assumptions. He clearly uses his reputation to guide the ref in calling the match.

Jimmy’s post in this thread have clearly shown his character. Reviewing the video Jimmy has clearly lied with his statement of checking on the wrestler.

In the end the ref is at fault for this mess. Jimmy and his ethics took advantage of the situation to benefit his wrestler and and his ego.

Monica Roldan

The ref made the call you pushed him into and for you to put good sportsmanship and your name in the same sentence is a joke. The only good sport was Samantha who still shook your hand after you screwed her over.

David Falcon

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Well stated.

Keeping integrity of the sport is key

Monica Roldan

The only person who should be embarrassed is you

Monica Roldan

@coach Jimmy - our coach ( who is not the poster you are replying to) approached the ref to override your decision, as he should have. You should have had nothing to do with that conversation, you're the opposing coach, NOT the REF!

Monica Roldan

She's going to college for Kinesiology and unfortunately, the schools she has applied to/been accepted to, don't have wrestling. That was literally her last match. Again, totally unacceptable.

Monica Roldan

Yes, we are walking into the AD's office tomorrow. This is unacceptable behavior by a coach and the ref for allowing it to happen. Someone needs to stand up for our girls.

David Falcon

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Message me if you can. I can not message you

Monica Roldan

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Tried to send you a message. Did it work?

Monica Roldan

We are moving forward with our complaint with CIF, hoping it helps the future of girls wrestling here. Maybe if enough people speak the truth, something will have to be done.

David Falcon

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Stay persistent. CIF and the Coach that are in the board seem to have a good ol boy network. That being stated there are members that are far and represent the sport well.

Monica Roldan

In regards to the incident that took place at CIF finals on saturday at Corona High School, we have requested that our AD contact CIF and make a formal complaint against the Corona coach. We are completely aware this may not change the status of Samantha getting to compete this upcoming weekend, however we would like it to be noted on record about this coach's behavior. We heard from multiple people before this ever happened that this coach was known for not always doing the right thing. It's also sad that after this happened, other people said "oh he's up to his old ways again huh?"

The bottom line is this was the host schools coach who decided to overturn the referees original call and then the referee backed him and reversed his original decision. Why? COMPLETELY unacceptable.

David Falcon

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As I’ve stated it is well known what Jimmy charter is in the Souther Section.

More people need to speak up including coaches.

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David Falcon

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Let him keep posting it showed his true character and what his ethics are.

Before seeing this post a coach was telling what took place. So people are aware and talking.

dnameisdave

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That is so good to hear. Kids do not deserve to be treated like this. And thank you for your support. It is very helpful.

Coach Jim Bowers

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Hello Coach! Let’s make sure you get your facts together. Our Corona wrestler was up 5-0 with your girl on her back. YOU failed her by allowing injury time to time out (passed 1:30) and I told the ref that the clock does not show their match any longer and it was clearly out of Injury time. If you wanted to dispute it, you should went to the table instead of crying on here to try to make it my fault. Great coaches approach the table either way legitimate arguments. I don’t care what this guy David says, he’s my biggest trolling fan, that means nothing to wrestling. So again, don’t make an excuse for your lack of attention to the clock. I’m sorry for your wrestler getting injured and I even checked on her IMMEDIATELY to make sure she was okay and you said NOTHING…So move on. Get your story and good luck next season.

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Ayyub Patel

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Jimmy,

You didn’t grasp the point of my message, so let me make it crystal clear this time. The real issue here is that you’re failing miserably at being a good example for these kids. What happened during that match shows a complete lack of maturity and sportsmanship. Your actions were nothing but the antics of a spoiled child trying to grab all the attention and victory for himself.

Let me remind you of where you missed the mark, selective memory perhaps.

When Samantha stood up, the referee called the girls to the center. He assumed that Samantha could not continue due to her injury and asked them to remove their bands. Samantha immediately told the referee she was ready to continue, after which the referee told the girls to put their bands back on so they can continue to wrestle.

That is when you stepped in and influenced the referee to reverse his decision to continue, resulting in throwing any sense of fairness and integrity right out the window. So yes, please look at the video. You should be embarrassed.

And why would you assume Samantha is fine? Have you spoken to her? Perhaps you should so you can truly understand the magnitude of the negative impact your actions have had on her.

You didn’t just affect the outcome of a match; you set a terrible example for the kids who are watching. Your actions speak volumes, and not in your favor.

In all fairness, why not let Samantha wrestle next week so we can put this to rest? What have you got to lose?

Coach Jim Bowers

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As a former coach, do you even understand the logic? You don’t make any sense at all in this situation. It’s done. Report whatever you feel is important in your head with your condescending comments, just know it doesn’t hurt my feelings because the losing side is ALWAYS looking for excuses versus understanding the reality. It’s not the wrestlers fault by any means. The ref made the call. Simple as that. If you can’t understand that, then don’t say anything at all. I’m all about the kids and what’s right, I don’t care if you believe or not. So again, do whatever you feel is necessary, I’m still be here to fight the battles for good of the sport. Unfortunately putting your feelings out here on these message forums instead of calling proper channels, only pulls girls wrestling backwards when coaches like myself continue to make strides to make us legitimate. Good luck on whatever remaining wrestlers you have and try to continue to show good sportsmanship in this sports that we know and love. Thank you

Ayyub Patel

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Here we are, bickering like kids. But sure, I'll dance.

It's clear from your message that your concern is your image. You claim to be ‘all about the kids’ and ‘what’s right,’ yet it’s obvious you’re more interested in defending yourself than actually reflecting on the situation. Instead of considering the impact of your actions, you’re deflecting by accusing others of ‘looking for excuses’ while you make it all about your own stance. You’re quick to dismiss the bigger picture and insist on being the one who’s ‘fighting for the sport,’ but in reality, you’re more focused on making sure you come out looking like the hero in your own narrative.

Your need to control the narrative here overshadows any real concern for fairness for the athletes involved. If you truly cared about what’s right, you’d show more humility and a willingness to see the full scope of the situation, rather than dismissing it with self-serving comments.

dnameisdave

Thank you David!

David Falcon

Also you need to report to your ad and they report to CIF.

When I first reached out to Rich one of the first think he state was no ADs or coaches have said anything

So report to CIF

David Falcon

You can also see my post about Queen of the Hill warning of the weight cheating.

Coaches parents speak up for the well being of the kids

David Falcon

It’s is sad how a man who’s done a lot for girls wrestling has suck so low he placed ego ahead of what he started.

I’ve been an advocate to expose Jimmy of his short comings not for personal gain. Rather for the integrity of the sport and safety of the of the girls. It is well known in Souther Section Jimmy cheats at weigh ins. For a year if have worked with CIF to clear their rules up with regards to coaches in the weigh in room. I did this as in 24 Jimmy played word games with the rules and interpreted the work “present” as Coach just hand in a weight sheet and leave. Thanks to Rich at CIF and his CIF team the adjusted verbiage to indicate coaches are to be in the weigh in room during all weigh ins. Ric also took it app on himself to attend the CIF Jimmy hosted.

Now I posted on CA wrestler fb group about the changes and how Jimmy continued to play his games telling coaches they cannot be by scales as he has his own associates run scales. Of course the Jimmy kiss asses attempted to defend him attack me personally. I continued to state facts and post screen shots I e received from past Corona parents confirming his cheating.

Today I was informed Jimmy attempted to control an ex wrestler by contacting her college coaches telling them he will not send them any more girls if they allow his ex wrestler to continue to expose who Jimmy is.

Jimmy has lost the point of his role. He is not the boss of girls wrestling.